Daniel 8:11 - A Translation Issue
is "taken away" correct?
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Revised Daniel 8:11 Rendering





There has been an issue with Daniel 8:11 which has been acknowledged but
not resolved.
 

    Dan   8:10  And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it cast down
                some of the host and some of the stars to the ground,
                and trampled them. 
           :11  He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host;
                and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the
                place of His sanctuary was cast down.
           :12  Because of transgression, an army was given over to the
                horn to oppose the daily sacrifices; and he cast truth
                down to the ground. He did all this and prospered.


The Hebrew word translated "taken away" is Strong's H7311 and Strong's
Exhaustive Concordance records the meaning as:

Strong's H7311 meaning



This definition does actually mention 'take away', but it can be seen
that its primary meaning is to heighten, to raise or figuratively to
exalt or extol.

The actions of the little horn are not intended to take away and elevate
the daily. They are rather intended to cause the regular daily to cease.
For this reason we have the mention of the casting down of the sanctuary.

There are actually two received forms of the Hebrew H7311.

Two Hebrew forms


             [NB: The first row shows the Hebrew without
                  added vowels. The second row shows the
                  Hebrew with vowels added. ]


Both are still conveying the same meaning, i.e. to 'raise'.


Rather than trying to justify this translation anomaly/error the Pulpit
Commentary has advanced a completely different rendering of the entire
Daniel 8:11 text. 

The Pulpit Commentary advances the following very different rendition.

    Dan   8:11  Until the Prince of the host shall make himself
                greater than he {"the little horn"} and shall
                offer the daily sacrifice. He shall complete the
                place of his sanctuary.


What this different rendition does, is to change the focus from the
'little horn' to the 'Prince of the host'. It moves forward in time
to the completion the reign of the 'little horn' and to the appearance
of the reign of the Prince of host.

This significant change in rendering is as a result of taking the initial
Hebrew word (Strong's H5704), to mean 'until', rather than 'unto'. Both
Hebrew word renderings are acceptable. It just depends on whether the
text is referencing 'time' or 'space (i.e. location)'.

The standard interpretation considers the three verses of Dan 8:10-12
are all talking about the little horn. The alternate approach has the
first two verses moving forward in time and then has the third verse
backtracking in time to again discuss the little horn.

There are a few issues with the Pulpit Commentary translation, but one
of the main issues is that it also does not reflect the true nature of
the Hebrew found in this verse. Its rendering, "complete the place of
the sanctuary" is not reflecting the 'casting down' notion of Strong's
H7993 which is found toward the end of this verse.


An important issue to be considered is that the Daniel 8:10-12 text
presents female gender in verses 10 and 12, but only male gender in
verse 11. (The following is extracted from the www.scripture4all.org
online Hebrew/Greek Interlinear rendering. The gender references have
been highlighted in red.)


    Dan   8:10  and she is-growing-great unto host-of the heavens and
                she-is-casting-down earth ward from the host and from
                the stars and she-is-trampling them
           :11  and unto chief-of the host he-magnified-himself and
                from him he heaved the continually and he-was-flung-down
                site-of sanctuary-of-him
           :12  and host she-was-given on the continually in transgression
                and she-is-flinging truth earthward and she-did and
                she prospered.


The female gender in verses 10 and 12 is reflecting the situation that
in Hebrew a 'horn' is feminine. So the use of a male gender in verse 11,
indicates the 'little horn' is not being discussed in this verse.


So what does the Hebrew of Daniel 8:11 actually state?


    H5704   unto, until

    H8269   chief, prince

    H6635   host

    H1431   he (did) great (things), he magnified (himself}

    and

    H4480   and from him, and hence from or out of

    H7311   to be high actively, to rise, raise

    H8548   the continual, the continually

    and

    H7993   fling/cast down/forth/off/out

    H4349   site of

    H4720   consecrated thing/place, hallowed, sanctuary


Hence, a reasonable rendering would be something like the following;


    Dan   8:11  Until the prince of the host did great things;
                and because of him was raised the continual,
                and was flung down the site of his sanctuary.


So the verse would be stating that the Prince of the Host would
do great things. Raise up the daily and cast down the sanctuary.

Why does this verse indicate 'his sanctuary'?

This is because while the little horn had been ruling over the
sanctuary, modifying its teaching and performing his role in
rendering the prophesied punishment of God, the actual sanctuary
had always belonged to God. Prophetically this sanctuary is
not going to be restored or rebuilt, but will rather become a
wasteland. 


Is there in Scripture an equivalent description? 


    Rev  11:11  Now after the three-and-a-half days the breath
                of life from God entered them, and they stood
                on their feet, and great fear fell on those who
                saw them.
           :12  And they heard a loud voice from heaven saying
                to them, "Come up here." And they ascended to
                heaven in a cloud, and their enemies saw them.
           :13  In the same hour there was a great earthquake,
                and a tenth of the city fell. In the earthquake
                seven thousand people were killed, and the rest
                were afraid and gave glory to the God of heaven.

 
The two witnesses of Revelation chapter 11 are symbols of the table
of showbread and the lampstand. Refer the following discussion;
Two Olive Trees - Two Lampstands
2 + 2 Witnesses

Both the bread upon the table of showbread and the light of the
lampstand were considered 'continual'.

    Dan   4:7   And upon the table of shewbread they shall spread a
                cloth of blue, and put thereon the dishes, and the
                spoons, and the bowls, and covers to cover withal:
                and the continual bread shall be thereon: (KJV)

    2Chr  2:24  Behold, I am building a temple for the name of the
                Lord my God, to dedicate it to Him, to burn before
                Him sweet incense, for the continual showbread, ...

    Lev  24:1   Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying:
           :2   "Command the children of Israel that they bring to
                you pure oil of pressed olives for the light, to
                make the lamps burn continually.
           :3   Outside the veil of the Testimony, in the tabernacle
                of meeting, Aaron shall be in charge of it from evening
                until morning before the Lord continually; it shall be
                a statute forever in your generations.
           :4   He shall be in charge of the lamps on the pure gold
                lampstand before the Lord continually.
                

Notice, Revelation 11:11 talks about the two witnesses ascending, which
matches the Daniel 8:11 notion 'raised the continual'.

In addition, notice the Rev 11:13 text which talks about the fall of a
tenth of the city, an earthquake killing 7,000 and a redirection of
faith. This matches the Dan 8:11 notion of 'flung down the site of his
sanctuary'.

Also notice that in Reve 11:8 Jerusalem is figuratively called 'Sodom'.
Sodom was to become a wasteland.



So in summary let us consider how Daniel 8:10-13 should have been
translated.


    Dan   8:10  And it grew up to the host of heaven; and it
                flung down some of the host and some of the
                stars to the ground, and trampled them. 
           :11  Until the prince of the host did great things,
                and because of him was raised the continual,
                and was flung down the site of His sanctuary.
           :12  And a host was given against the continual
                which was in transgression, and it flung
                down truth to the ground. And it did this
                and prospered.

 






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