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MARY MAGDALENE(S)
& THE OTHER MARYS





       Contents


       Ladies at the Crucifixion

       The Name - Mary Magdalene

       Ladies at the Crucifixion Identified

       Ladies Visiting the Tomb Identified

       Spices - Already Prepared vs Purchased

       Timing - Ladies Going to the Tomb

       The Other Mary

       The Anointing of Christ

       Mother of Joses

       Mary of James

       Other Verses

       Summary



LADIES AT THE CRUCIFIXION


When we look at the verses discussing the ladies present at the
crucifixion of Christ we can identify two groups of ladies.

The text of John mentions ladies standing close to the cross of
Jesus:

   John  19:25  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His
                mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the
                wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.


            Greek - John 19:25


   Notice, that there is an 'and' between "His mother" and
   "His mother's sister" and also between "Mary of Clopas"
   and "Mary Magdalene".
   However, there is no 'and' between "His mother's sister"
   and "Mary of Clopas".
   (Some translations do not accurately mirror this (eg the NIV
   which leaves out the first 'and'.)

   The absence of the 'and' between 'His mother's sister' and
   'Mary of Clopas', suggests Mary of Clopas was the sister of
   Christ's mother.

Indicating there were three ladies close to the cross;

            - the mother of Jesus
            - His mother's sister, Mary wife of Clopas
            - Mary Magdalene


Clearly the mother of Jesus and His mother's sister were relatives.
So was the Mary Magdalene, in John 19:25, also a family member?
After all, it would have been appropriate for older family members
to be close to the cross.

A name similar to Clopas is 'Cleopas'.

Greek for Clopas is Greek - Clopas - John 19:25. Greek for Cleopas is Greek - Cleopas - Luke 24:18.

   [NB: Apparently Clopas  - is a Greek equivalent of Strong's H256
                             and it means 'brother (i.e. friend) of
                                           the father'
                   Cleopas - is a compound of Strong's G2811 and G3962,
                             and means 'glory of the father'.

        These meanings are somewhat reminiscent of:
                   Matt 16:18 And I also say to you that you are Peter,
                              and on this rock I will build My church,
                              and the gates of Hades shall not prevail
                              against it.
                          :19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom
                              of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth
                              will be bound in heaven, and whatever you
                              loose on earth will be loosed in heaven." ]

Cleopas is the name of one of the two followers to whom Christ appeared
after His resurrection.

   Luke  24:18   Then the one whose name was Cleopas answered
                 and said to Him, "Are You the only stranger in
                 Jerusalem, and have You not known the things
                 which happened there in these days?"

A subsequent verse appears to confirm that Simon Peter was indeed one
of the two.

   Luke  24:34  saying, "The Lord is risen indeed, and has
                appeared to Simon!"
           :35  And they told about the things that had
                happened on the road, and how He was known
                to them in the breaking of bread.

               [NB: The reference to 'the eleven' in Luke 24:33
                    is not necessarily referring to the remaining
                    11 apostles. Judas Iscariot of course is
                    missing and likely doubting Thomas (absent
                    that night) therefore if these two followers
                    were both apostles, then the 11 would be
                    composed of 8 apostles and 3 others.]


Apart from the ladies standing near the cross there were ladies who
looked on from afar.

    Matt  27:55  And many women who followed Jesus from Galilee,
                 ministering to Him, were there looking on from
                 afar,
            :56  among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother
                 of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's
                 sons.

    Mark  15:40  There were also women looking on from afar,
                 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother
                 of James the Less and of Joses, and Salome,
            :41  who also followed Him and ministered to Him when
                 He was in Galilee, and many other women who came
                 up with Him to Jerusalem.


What we are informed about the ladies, both near and far from the
cross:


        JOHN  19:25                    MATT 27:56 / MARK 15:40

        (close to the cross,           (far from the cross,
        likely related)                others travelling
                                       from Galilee)

        Mary - mother of Jesus         Matt 27:56
        Mary - mother's sister         - Mary Magdalene
             - wife of Clopas          - Mary - mother of James and Joses
        Mary Magdalene                 - Mother of Zebedee's sons
                                       Mark 15:40
                                       - Mary Magdalene
                                       - Mary - mother of James the Less
                                                and Joses
                                       - Salome


       [NB: Matt 27:56 mentions 'mother of Zebedee's sons' and
            Mark 15:40 mentions 'Salome'. So this raises the
            question of whether the name of the mother of
            Zebedee's sons was Salome.

            If this is accepted we have, standing far from the cross,

               - Mary mother of the apostle James the Less
                 (who was the son of Alphaeus) and Joses,
               - Salome mother of the key apostles James and John,
               - Mary Magdalene (cleansed of seven spirits).

            Who is Joses, brother of James the Less?

            In Mark 2:14 the apostle Levi, who is seen sitting in
            the tax office, is stated as being the son of Alphaeus.
            In the list of the apostles - Matt 10:1-4, Mark 3:14-19,
            Luke 6:13-16, Acts 1:13 - Levi is another name for Matthew.
            (For some reason Mary of James the Less is not associated
            with Matthew, but instead with 'Joses'.)

            From Acts 4:36 we learn that 'Joses' was an alternate
            name for Barnabas. So it seems his mother was this
            'Mary mother of James the Less'. ]


THE NAME - MARY MAGDALENE


MAGDALENE - MAGDALA


The term Magdalene, is commonly thought to be suggesting a connection
to Magdala (near the Sea of Galilee);

    Matt 15:39  And He sent away the multitude, got into the
                boat, and came to the region of Magdala.

According to Strong's Concordance the word 'Magdala' is a word meaning
'the tower' or 'fortress'.


Since we have shown that Scripture is indicating there were two ladies
called 'Mary Magdalene' what we have is a Mary from Magdala and another
Mary who is generally considered to be like a 'tower' or 'fortress'.


MAGDALENE - 'TOWER' / 'FORTRESS'


Scripture provides an elderly candidate who would have been highly
respected.

    Matt   8:14  Now when Jesus had come into Peter's house,
                 He saw his wife's mother lying sick with a
                 fever.
            :15  And He touched her hand, and the fever left
                 her. Then she arose and served them.

Here we have advice that Peter's wife had a mother who was healed from
a fever.

We also know that Christ's mother had a sister who was also named 'Mary'.

    John  19:25  Now there stood by the cross of Jesus His
                 mother, and His mother's sister, Mary the
                 wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene.


If this 'Clopas' was a reference to Simon Peter and the two sisters
were full sisters then this elderly healed lady would have been
Christ's grandmother!

NB: It is possible there was a significant age gap between the
    two sisters. As one was the mother of Jesus and the other
    was the wife of Peter.

The elderly healed lady's name is not mentioned, but if her two
daughters were named 'Mary' then it is quite likely she was also
called 'Mary'. Given that this lady was the mother of Peter's wife
and likely the mother of Christ's mother she would have been held
in very high esteem!
The descriptive title 'Magdalene', meaning 'tower' or 'fortress'
would have been truly appropriate.

          The Mary Magdalene standing with Christ's mother
          and her sister, could indeed have been the grand-
          mother of Christ.


LADIES AT THE CRUCIFIXION IDENTIFIED


So assembling all this information we can derive the following.


        JOHN  19:25                    MATT 27:56 / MARK 15:40

        (close to the cross,           (far from the cross,
        likely related)                others travelling
                                       from Galilee)

        Mary - mother of Jesus         Mary Magdalene (7 demons)
        Mary - mother's sister         Mary - mother of apostle
             - wife of Peter                - James the Less
        Mary Magdalene                 Salome - mother of apostles
             - grandmother of Jesus           - James and John
                                                (Zebedee's sons)


Notice that the ladies standing near the cross are all family members.

All the other ladies are standing far from the cross.


LADIES VISITING THE TOMB IDENTIFIED

Ladies Saying Nothing


The study of the ladies visiting the tomb of Christ raises some
interesting issues.

    Mark  16:1   Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene,
                 Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought
                 spices, that they might come and anoint Him.

            :8   So they went out quickly and fled from the tomb,
                 for they trembled and were amazed. And they
                 said nothing to anyone, for they were afraid.


Scripture quite clearly states that these three ladies "said nothing
to anyone".

            - Mary Magdalene
            - Mary of James
            - Salome


This is in sharp contrast to other texts which depict a Mary Magdalene
and others informing the apostles and disciples.

Ladies Telling the Apostles


    Matt  28:8   So they [Mary Magdalene and the other Mary] went
                 out quickly from the tomb with fear and great joy,
                 and ran to bring His disciples word.

    Luke  24:10  It was Mary Magdalene [Greek = "the Magdalene Mary"],
                 Joanna, Mary the mother of James, and the other
                 women with them, who told these things to the
                 apostles.

So these ladies informed others that the tomb was empty and that
angels had told them Christ had risen.

            - Mary Magdalene ["Magdalene Mary"]
            - Joanna
            - Mary of James
            - other women

Luke 24:10 indicates the Mary Magdalene being discussed here is the
'Magdalene Mary'. Presumably, the Mary which had come from Magdala.

Considering these two groups of ladies, clearly shows that not only do
we have two ladies named 'Mary Magdalene', but we also have two ladies
identified as 'Mary of James'.

SUMMARY - LADIES VISITING THE TOMB


What we appear to have is the following:


        Nothing To Anyone              Telling the Apostles
        (listed Mark 16:1)             (listed Luke 24:10)

        Mary Magdalene                 Mary Magdalene ('Magdalene Mary')
             - grandmother of Jesus          - Was cast seven demons
        Mary - of James                Joanna
             - mother of Jesus              
        Salome - mother of apostles    Mary - of James
                 James and John             - James the Less
                                       other ladies


        NB: 1) After the death of Jesus the next oldest son of Mary
               was James. Matt 13:55 & Mark 6:3.
            2) The Mary Magdalene, out of which he had cast seven
               demons, was the Mary Magdalene who spoke to those
               who had been with Him. Mark 16:9-11.


SPICES - ALREADY PREPARED VS PURCHASED


It seems that the ladies decided to split into two groups.

One group would leave early and take the previously prepared spices
directly to the tomb.

    Luke  23:55  And the women who had come with Him from
                 Galilee followed after, and they observed
                 the tomb and how His body was laid.
            :56  Then they returned and prepared spices and
                 fragrant oils. And they rested on the
                 Sabbath according to the commandment.

          24:1   Now on the first day of the week, very early
                 in the morning, they, and certain other women
                 with them, came to the tomb bringing the spices
                 which they had prepared.


The other group would leave later and go to the market to purchase
additional spices.

    Mark  16:1   Now when the Sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene,
                 Mary the mother of James, and Salome bought
                 spices, that they might come and anoint Him.


So who were the ladies who observed where the tomb was?

    Matt  27:55  And many women who followed Jesus from Galilee,
                 ministering to Him, were there looking on from
                 afar,
            :56  among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother
                 of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's
                 sons.

We have already concluded that Salome was the mother of Zebedee's
sons.

This is why Salome is mentioned as one of the ladies who accompanied
the other women who would purchase additional spices from the market.
Salome knew where the tomb was located.

Someone had to accompany the other two women, the grandmother and
the mother of Jesus.
As these two women did not know the location of the tomb.


TIMING - LADIES GOING TO THE TOMB


There are also differences in respect to when the two groups of ladies
arrive at the tomb.

A) The ladies bringing the purchased spices arrived late in the morning.

    Mark  16:2   Very early in the morning [Greek = "And 'very'/
                 'exceedingly' morning"], on the first day of the
                 week, they came to the tomb when the sun had
                 risen.

These ladies arrived 'at' or 'shortly after' sunrise! (The rendering
of the initial portion of the verse "Very early in the morning" is
misleading. What is being stated is that it was 'fully morning', when
these ladies arrived at the tomb.

The description of their arrival, encounter with an angel who requested
they speak to the disciples and to Peter, and their fear and departure
are recorded in Mark 16:1-8. 

We are informed in Mark 16:8 that they 'said nothing to anyone'.


B) The other ladies arrived much earlier.

There is presented a sequence of events.

1) Mary Magdalene departed while it was still dark. Her and the other
   Mary arrived as it began to grow light.

   John  20:1    Now on the first day of the week Mary Magdalene
                 went to the tomb early, while it was still
                 dark, and saw that the stone had been
                 taken away from the tomb.

   Matt  28:1    Now after the Sabbath [After the close of the
                 Sabbaths], as the first day of the week began
                 to dawn [grow light], Mary Magdalene and the
                 other Mary came to see the tomb.

   Mary Magdalene and the other Mary leave to visit the tomb after the
   close of the Sabbaths.

   In respect to these two women visiting the tomb, there is no
   mention of spices. So it seems Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
   were tasked with the role of trying to convince some nearby men
   to roll away the stone from the tomb.


2) A short while later some other women proceeded to the tomb and
   they bring the prepared spices.

   Luke  24:1    Now on the first day of the week, very early
                 in the morning [Greek = 'early deep'], they, 
                 and certain other women with them, came to the
                 tomb bringing the spices which they had prepared.

                 [NB: 'early deep'. The 'early' suggesting
                      'early morning'.
                      'deep' meaning 'profound (as going down)'
                      Hence, 'early morning deepens'.]

   They find the tomb empty and two men in shining garments who remind
   them of the words of Christ. Luke 24:2-4.

3) The women then proceed to tell the apostles, who do not believe
   them. Luke 24:8-11.
   The women mentioned are;   Mary Magdalene,
                              Joanna,
                              Mary of James,
                              other women.

4) Peter and the other disciple (commonly thought to be John)
   visit the empty tomb and then return to their homes. John 20:3-10.

5) Christ appears to two women.
   Two women had followed the two apostles and remained at the tomb
   after the apostles left. These were Mary Magdalene and the 'other
   Mary'.
   The text John 20:11-17 is discussing the 'other Mary' which Christ
   simply calls 'Mary'.
   John 20:18 confirms that Mary Magdalene was also present. The
   presence of Mary Magdalene (out of whom He had cast seven demons)
   is further confirmed by Mark 16:9.
   Matt 28:9-10 confirms that Christ first appeared to more than one
   woman. The text is saying 'them', Strong's G846. Form "Greek G846 'them'.".

    Matt  28:9   And behold, Jesus met them, saying, "Greetings!"
                 And having approached, they took hold of His feet
                 and worshiped Him.
            :10  Then Jesus says to them, "Do not fear. Go, tell
                 My brothers, so that they should go into Galilee,
                 and there will they see Me." {Berean Literal Bible}

   [NB: Many translations of Matthew 28:9 (including the KJV and NKJV) 
        incorrectly follow some questionable manuscripts which begin
        Matt 28:9 with, "as they went to tell the disciples".
        This is NOT accurate!

        Pulpit advises manuscript error

        John 20:10-11 clarifies the correct time sequence.] 


6) Mary Magdalene departs and tells the other ladies she has seen
   Christ. At the time, the other ladies were mourning and weeping.
   However, they do not believe. Mark 16:10-11.

    Mark  16:10  She went and told those who had been with Him,
                 as they mourned and wept.
            :11  And when they heard that He was alive and had
                 been seen by her, they did not believe.

   She also tells the apostles.

    John  20:18  Mary Magdalene came and told the disciples that
                 she had seen the Lord, and that He had spoken
                 these things to her.


So, in summary, Mary Magdalene, out of which was cast seven demons,
is clearly a significant person in the events which occur during the
first half of the resurrection day. 

Alongside of her was a another lady. A lady simply described as the
'other Mary'. 

THE OTHER MARY


Who was the 'other Mary'?

    At the time of the burial.

    Matt  27:61  And Mary Magdalene was there, and the other Mary,
                 sitting opposite the tomb.

    At the time of the resurrection.

    Matt  27:1   Now after the Sabbath, as the first day of the week
                 began to dawn, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary
                 came to see the tomb. 


This question is apparently answered in Mark.

    Mark  15:47  And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses,
                 observed where He was laid.


The women from Galilee observed where his body was laid.

    Luke  23:55  And the women who had come with Him from Galilee
                 followed after, and they observed the tomb and
                 how His body was laid.


THE ANOINTING OF CHRIST


Scripture initially appears to present three separate times when
Christ was anointed.


                   Early in       6 Days Before    2 Days Before
                   His Ministry   14th Passover    14th Passover

                   Luke 7:36-50   John 12:1-8      Matt 26:6-13
                                                   Mark 14:3-9

Woman named        -              Mary             -

Location           -              Bethany          Bethany

House              Simon          (Martha          Simon
                   a Pharisee     serving          the leper 
                                  supper)

Feet or Head       feet           feet             head

Woman's hair       yes            yes              -

Woman's tears      yes            -                -

Kissed             feet           -                -

Oil named          -              spikenard        spikenard
                   fragrant       fragrant         fragrant

Oil flask          alabaster      -                alabaster

Oil valued         -              300 denarii      300 denarii

Who complained     Pharisees      Judas Iscariot   disciples (Matt)
                                                   some present (Mark)

Purpose            forgiveness    burial           burial

These previously mentioned verses provide clarity. John 11:1 Now a certain man was sick, Lazarus of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha. :2 It was that Mary who anointed the Lord with fragrant oil and wiped His feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick. NOTES: 1) The Mary who anointed the feet of Christ early in His ministry was Mary sister of Martha. The indication is that she is the woman who anointed Him on all occasions. 2) The same type of valuable oil appears to have been used for each occasion. 3) During the first two scriptural instances His feet are anointed, while the third instance mentions the anointing of His head. 4) The house was owned by Simon the leper who was a Pharisee. This house was located in Bethany, which was very close to Jerusalem. 5) The second and third occurrences are similar events. - The second occasion is mentioned when Christ arrives in Bethany, before the weekly Sabbath and before His subsequent entry into Jerusalem upon the colt of a donkey. At this time Judas Iscariot complains. - The third occasion occurred after several days of His witness in Jerusalem. Occurring the night prior to His final supper with His apostles. Some disciples who are present complain. 6) Some have postulated that the Simon mentioned in these accounts was the husband of Martha. (This would provide an explanation for why Martha, along with her sister and her brother, would be living in the house of Simon.) 7) Some have also considered that this Simon was also the father of Judas Iscariot. From YLT. John 6:71 - "Judas, Simon's son, Iscariot" John 12:4 - "Judas Iscariot, of Simon" John 13:2 - "Judas of Simon, Iscariot" John 13:26 - "Judas of Simon, Iscariot"

MOTHER OF JOSES


In respect to the ladies, the name Joses is mentioned three times,
Matt 27:56, Mark 15:40 & 47.

    Matt  27:56  among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother
                 of James and Joses, and the mother of Zebedee's
                 sons.

    Mark  15:40  There were also women looking on from afar,
                 among whom were Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother
                 of James the Less and of Joses, and Salome,

            :47  And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses
                 observed where He was laid.

From these verses we can see that Joses is a brother of James. Also,
that this James, in Mark 15:40, was also known as "James the Less".
Implying that the Matt 15:40 James was of lesser standing than James
the brother of John.

The listed brothers of Christ include both a James and a Joses.

    Matt  13:55  "Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not His mother
                 called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses (or
                 Joseph), Simon and Judas?"
    Mark   6:3   "Is this not the carpenter, the son of Mary, and
                 brother of James, Joses, Judas, and Simon? And
                 are not His sisters here with us?" And they were
                 offended at Him.

So Joses could be a) the younger brother of Christ or b) a previously
unmentioned brother of the apostle James the son of Alphaeus.

If one sets a distinction between the ladies standing near the
cross and those standing further away, then Joses is most likely
a previously unmentioned brother of James the son of Alphaeus.


In Scripture the name Joses is also given to Barnabas.

    Acts   4:36  And Joses, who was also named Barnabas by
                 the apostles (which is translated Son of
                 Encouragement), a Levite of the country
                 of Cyprus,

Barnabas was a cousin of John Mark, who in turn appears to have been
the son of Peter.

    1Col   4:10  ... with Mark the cousin of Barnabas ...

    1Pet   5:13  ... and so does Mark my son.


MARY OF JAMES


We previously noted that there was a 'Mary of James' which was
one of the three ladies who said "nothing to anyone". And there
was a "Mary of James" who was one of the ladies who testified
about the appearance and message of the angel(s).

There are three people called 'James'.

  - James the apostle who was the brother of John.
  - James the apostle who was related to Alphaeus.
  - James who was the brother of Christ.

We previously noticed that Salome may be the mother of James and
John (comparing Matt 27:56 and Mark 15:40). So this would tend to
suggest the first James is not a possibility.

We now need to consider what other ladies were mentioned alongside
each of these two 'Mary of James' references.

  - Mark 16:1,  Mary Magdalene, Mary of James and Salome
                (who said "nothing to anyone")

  - Luke 24:10, the Mary Magdalene, Joanna and Mary of James
                (who testified)

From this Mary mother of Christ appears to be the Mary of James
in Mark 16:1. She is with the Mary Magdalene to which she is likely
related (not the Mary Magdalene to whom Christ first appears). Also
she would have been acquainted with Salome whose sons were in business
with her sister's sons.

At first it may seem strange to call Mary the mother of Christ by
the title Mary of James, but one only has to recall that Christ
has now died and that her next oldest son was named James.

This leaves James the son of Alphaeus as the Mary of James in Luke
24:10. A woman who is mentioned after the other two ladies, ie Mary
Magdalene (to whom Christ appeared) and Joanna.


OTHER VERSES


1)  There was a Mary who was the mother of John Mark.

    Acts  12:2   Then he [Herod] killed James the brother of
                 John with the sword.

            :12  So, when he had considered this, he came to
                 the house of Mary, the mother of John whose
                 surname was Mark, where many were gathered
                 together praying.

    The home of Mary was located in the district of Jerusalem,
    where Herod was located.


2)  There was a James who was the brother of Jude.

    Jude   1:1   Jude, a bondservant of Jesus Christ, and
                 brother of James, ...


SUMMARY


Correctly assembling the pieces of information related to the ladies
who witness the crucifixion of Christ and who later visit His tomb is
quite difficult.

While some information can be derived it seems that in the end one has
to make some reasonable assumptions.

It is hoped that this commentary may serve as a thought provoking basis
for the further study of this topic.








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